After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. After creating Adam, God "put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it" (Genesis 2:15). We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. The Genesis account contains provocative clues as to what Adam and Eve lost by withdrawing from God. Picture this. I am searching for ideas about the absence of God in the Garden. Here is the verse in its entirety. Genesis 3:8 Context. In order to answer the question of why God created Adam and Eve naked we first need to look as some Scriptures which show that the Bible uses clothing is a symbol of our character. If strong wind is a better translation, then it would not be saying that God was walking in the garden, but instated that He was moving in the garden. I have a problem with Christians continually repeating that the Bible says they walked with God in the garden because it doesnt say that. Keep up the search for accuracy. Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! Now go to verse 17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Answer (1 of 21): The context once again gives the answer. I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. The only possible biblical reference to walking in the Garden of Eden is found after Adam and Eve sinned. Ive added that to the article now to help clarify that point. Hi Sam, We do see examples of theophanies in the Old Testament where God does appear to people in human form, as He did to Abraham. It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. Is it that they are referred to as sons of God? holy ones? Thats not exactly a clear cut and dry case, beyond dispute, based on those sparse details. God communicated many things to Adam. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . I decided to search the internet to see WHY people believe this. Was it God walking or was it something different? Personal fellowship with God is at the very heart of our purpose for being! This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. Thanks for your comments. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! Like a child jumping in his fathers arm as he comes home from work. I know you didnt use the word constant but thats sort of the point in my article. Our adversary seeks to discredit the validity of the Word of God. Whats different, and merits the commentary, is not that God has for the first time come to walk in the Garden, but that for the first time his walking in the Garden is responded to in fear and hiding, due to sin. Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. When God asked them how they knew they were naked, and asked them if they had eaten from the tree they were not to. Your article keeps us on the ever-important path of faithfulness. Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. 16 I also will do this unto you I will appoint unto you terror consumption burning ague that shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart and you shall sow your seed in vain your enemies shall eat it17 and I will set my face against you 18 and if you still dont listen to Mei will punish you 7 times more for your sins please not that it is sin that seperates man from god. If they dont walk with him no blessing no rain no food and punishment 7 times more. ( Genesis 3:13-15) When looking at Genesis 3:13-15, there is no direct indication that the serpent had legs, only that its curse would be "on your belly you shall go.". If Im narrating a scene, I can write that the main character heard a certain sound (e.g., an approaching truck or an army on the march) before the character realizes what it is that he is hearing. I believe whenever we read the words The Word of the Lord came to such and such prophet, that means Jesus (who is the Word of God)literally came to that individual as Jesus appeared to John on the Island of Patmos. This is why Christians generally believe that all human life is precious. Its sort of like saying, The Bible never says Jesus wasnt married, so He might have been. Its true that Scripture never states this plainly, but there are certain inferences people make from some verses in an effort to support such an idea. Although I agree, you simply cannot prove this one way or another, however I believe the scripture gives us enough evidence to assume with confadence, that Jesus did take a physical form and did actually, literally walk through the garden. Walked with God is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israels heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. Can you show me some similar articles? I hope this helps. Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.". Even the best of our actions is imperfect. I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. Adam and Eve are walking around in the Garden of Eden, and they meet up with this serpent who asks them an interesting question: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the . Sincerely, It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. the Word of God walked in Eden. He never showed him self He when He was showing himself to Moses and the others He revealed himself to in some other form. But even if that happens to be the right way to look at it, then it may still be correct to view this as a theophany. Also, Adam didnt necessarily say that he heard Gods voice (some Bibles translate it that way), but it could just as accurately be translated as your sound in the garden. " (John 1:18) . I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. Maybe their nakedness was not exposed genitalia, but realized they were naked in some other maner. Adam and Eve were happy and satisfied in the beautiful garden. Maybe they did, but the text doesnt tell us that. I hope you will continue in the pursuit of God's Truth. When He asked them why they hid they answered Him. Adam fell because he freely chose to disobey God, but second because he listened to his wife who had also freely chosen to disobey. September 13, 2019. Bible Answer: They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Thanks for your thoughts on this. Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. At the same time, Adam understood what God meant when He spoke to him, so there clearly was some preprogramming that occurred when God created him. My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. Im not sure where you got the idea that Im hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God. I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God, which is what I stated in the conclusion of the post and in several follow-up comments. I believe this issue is often promoted by people with certain theological perspectives who want to show how much damage sin did to our relationship with God. Granted, Adam and Eve walking with God poses no theological problems, but my point here is that the strength (or better, weakness) of that particular argument is roughly the same. He gives them clothes in Verse 21 because the evil deed, of eating from . But what comes to my mind is why would you choose this debated part to address the concern. Adam and Eve. The problem with this scenario is that Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long. (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). If he was just manifesting himself in a strong wind, there would be no need to use the word walking. It is possible that the Lord taught them how to do certain things, as you say, but it certainly wasnt necessary. " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word . For the record, I strongly reject such a notion. * In The Garden * And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. This is a different subject. Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. We walk with the voice of God as well. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. So, heres one guy that wont repeat this again. Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. Gen 2:16-17. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. Not once. But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. When everything fell apart, so did the people. Sin Of Walking. Then it says that Adam & Eve hid themselves from God's presence and then they confessed that they "heard" His voice and hid themselves from His voice. I have no problem with the concept of Adam and Eve walking with God and seeing Him. I hear it on a regular basis, and many of my coworkers have said it. So if this is accurate, then what Adam heard was the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, as indicated in the same translations mentioned above. We know that God is capable of doing this, but my point is that the text never states or implies that He did. Romans 5:10-12 If how we are not that naive to believe that this is a new thing with Him, no we can reasonably infer that God spent time with Adam and Eve. Genesis 3:8 ? 00:00. Our hearts were reformed for this exact purpose. why couldnt it have been Jesus walking in the garden. See my article, Was Jesus Married? When they heard the sound of the Lord God walking about in the garden at the breezy time of the day, the man and his wife hid themselves from the Lord God among the trees of the garden (Gen. 3:8). Furthermore, nothing in John 1 states that Jesus walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. Therefore while at yet there was no temptation, walking with God was natural. Lastly, as scripture verifies scripture, we see the second Adam, known as Jesus Christ in regular and perpetual contact with the same God and Father. Then something happened. To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. I think it would be odd for God to first come walking in the garden with Adam and Eve only after they had sinned. Even if this translation is accurate, which is debatable, it does not say that they walked with God. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. Also, when Adam and Eve were created, I dont believe they were automatically filled with knowledge as how to take care of themselves, the animals, the garden,etc You could be hiding with the Lord standing (figuratively speaking)right in front of them, and they wouldnt know. As a father communes with His children, so does the Creator with His created beings (Psalm 103:13). What does it mean for God to walk with them? God speaks, asking Adam where he is. The impression people usually get is that Adam and Eve were in the garden for a long time, enjoying daily walks with God. I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. We must know that Eve and Adam's life in the Garden of Eden was beyond happy. Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. They forgot about God. (Gen. 3:8) Adam is placed in the garden to "cultivate (abad)" and "keep (samar)" it (Gen 2:15). This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. I appreciate the encouraging words. But there is no need to make the text say something it doesnt. If youre interested, heres the link: https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/ No? God appointed angels to guard the way back (Genesis 3:23-24). God went down to talk with Adam and Eve as usual in the cool of the day, normally they would be in the open and easy to find, but this time when God came they were afraid and had hidden behind some trees or bushes. This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. I believe it is very important to know what is and isnt in the Bible. "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. Because Adam and Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Lord sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the world. But its an irrelevant point. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. 2. I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. God sent Adam and Eve out of the garden where grew the tree of life. You may be reaching for your Bible right now to prove me wrong. But again, that doesnt change my point. Your desire to keep us focused on what the Word actually says is to be commended. The main point of this entire post is to encourage Christians to look closely at Scripture, so that they will stop saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God or something very similar. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? Theres no definitive proof, but the passages implication seems clear to me. We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. I just want to offer a thought about Cain and Abels ages. It is definitely possible that the person in the Garden was the preincarnate Christ. They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. I have read the account of Creation, Adam and Eve, and the Fall so many times in my lifetime, but I just recently realized that the Bible doesnt say that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. God loved to come and take a walk in the garden in the evenings when the shadows were cool, and the flowers smelled sweet, and when all the animals came out to play. So they hid from the Lord God among the trees in the garden. (Genesis 3:8). What is the one thing that He values the most, as we know it? God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. As I stated in the article and numerous times in the comments section, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God, but it is unwise for Christians to claim that the Bible says they did. Abel may have had plenty of kids who would want revenge against their Uncle Cain for killing their father. Two things that they did see. 6398. You say that since Gods coming is right after Adam and Eve sin, that His reason for coming is to proclaim judgment. Ive heard this, believed this, and repeated this on more than one occasion. How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? I guess its just hard to let go of certain ideas, but we must always allow our thinking to be challenged by what Scripture actually says rather than what we want it to say. I can see that cool of the day can be also be breath, spirit, or wind. God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. Because at this time there are only three people left from the list. thank you so much. I dont find your suggestion to be plausible. In terms of the theological questions of how God could do this, one answer could be that it is an embodied pre-incarnate Christ, the Angel of the Lord, who is himself the Lord and who appears many times in the Old Testament. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! Of course, since I work in a ministry that emphasizes Genesis 111, Im going to hear it more than most people. Ive heard pastors, speakers, authors, and many other Christians confidently state that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden of Eden. (Vs. 24 says He drove them out the he place Cherubims). However, many scholars believe the best way to explain the image of God is to think of it as a verb. (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. Genesis 3:8 KJV. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. Conclusion. I think your comments are valid additional arguments that could be used by those who favor that view, but as you seem to recognize (it seems to follow), the arguments are not watertight. As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. I believe one of the biggest weapons used against it is when secular opponents are more aware of the accuracy of the passages like this than we Christians who misuse and misquote them. Hi Tim, God cannot look upon sin ( Habakkuk 1:13) and that's why He told Moses no one can see His face and live ( Exodus 33:20 ). well, they say that Jesuss life was that of God or perhaps he was God. Its about urging people to take a closer look at the text so that they do not make false claims about it.
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